Hey everybody, welcome back to the show! I’m really excited to have my old friend, Alex Pardo, with me here today! We have similar stories. We both started off as wholesalers and house flippers and then moved into a more long-term wealth building. Today, Alex will share his story, including how he got started and why he made the transition from wholesaling to self-storage investing. We are going to talk about how to build a lifestyle that you love. You will surely love this episode! Let’s get started!

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Mike: [00:00:00] Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Really excited to have my old friend, Alex Pardot with me here today, we have very similar stories. We started off as wholesalers and, uh, house flippers and did all that stuff moved into stuff. That’s more like long-term wealth building. Uh, but he’s going to share a story today is his whole background as to how he got started and why he made that transition.

And we’re going to learn about a lot about somebody that a lot of you need to learn from, which is how to really build a lifestyle that you. Welcome to real estate investing secrets. We’re all looking for freedom and the opportunity to live better, more fulfilling lives. But most of us were trained our entire lives to work for someone else to chase their dreams.

How can we use real estate investing as a vehicle to achieve financial freedom? My life is dedicated to answering your real estate investing questions and helping you build an investing business that allows you to change your. And the world around me. And to enable you to turn your dreams of financial freedom into a reality, my name is Mike Hambright from flipping our.com [00:01:00] and your questions get answered here on the real estate investing secrets.

Hey, Alex, welcome to the show,

Alex: Mike. Thank you so much, brother. I I’m I’m grateful and honored to be back on your show was many, many years ago. I think I was on, uh, one of your flip nerds shows. And so I appreciate the invite and always

Mike: reconnecting with you. Yeah, absolutely. I should. Should’ve looked it up beforehand.

I didn’t look up what show number it was or how long ago was I know it’s been awhile and. Honestly, even before you started your podcast. Cause I remember when you started yours, what you said you’re coming up on six years ago. Uh, we talked a couple of times. Uh, you had a couple of, you know, you wanted to talk about, maybe get a little bit of feedback since I started a little bit before you, um, and you just blew my mind when you told me it was six years.

I can’t believe there’s been.

Alex: Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s a, the podcast has been an incredible platform. As you know, it’s opened up a lot of doors and opportunities and I’m grateful to guys like you like pioneers before me, you and several others that I had, the ability that. I’m a relationship sky. So I love the fact that, you know, you and I built a relationship.

I was able to pick up the [00:02:00] phone and get valuable feedback from you, man. So I’m so grateful for that.

Mike: Yeah. It’s funny just while we’re on that topic in, you know, I I’ve, I told a story recently. I was talking to somebody and I, when I started my podcast, the Flipgrid podcast, which was about eight and a half years ago, um, it was right, right around Christmas time and like 2000.

Gosh, I can’t even do math right now. A long time ago, 20 14, 20 13, something like that. When I started my podcast, they were like, there were like five or six other real estate podcasts. Joe McCall, Matt Terrio, Matt Terry, or Sean, Sean, Terry Materiaux Sean Terry. Jason Hartman. 10 podcasts, even at that time.

And, uh, there might’ve been another person or two. Um, but it wasn’t very many and gosh, I don’t even know how many, I, I don’t even, I haven’t counted it a long time and I’m sure there’s hundreds now. Hundreds, if not

Alex: thousands.

Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, we’re pioneers my friend, so Hey, oh. That might not know you, I’m sure there’s a lot of folks that are watching right now that do nothing, but talk a little about your background, how you got started in real estate investing.

Alex: [00:03:00] Yeah, man, Mike, feel free to cut me off cause I can condense the intro, but uh, you know, born and raised, born and raised in Miami, I came from a middle-class family. Uh, which, which in my opinion, honestly, is, is, uh, probably tough because you’re, you’re comfortable. Right. And we know that comfortable can be the enemy of greatness.

Uh, but my family provided for me and, uh, Something inside of me, I always was very driven. I was very ambitious, had that entrepreneurial bug. I remember being 12, 13 years old, flipping baseball cards, making a couple bucks. Uh, fast-forward graduated from college and I took a job with general electric and their financial management program.

And, uh, and Mike, you know how we have those, those fork in the road moments, those defining moments, some might call it. Um, I was always very. Ambitious to one day, be the future CFO or CEO of one of these big companies. And I, I, I’ll never forget two, three months in that particular position, I would look at my boss and then all the way up the ladder to the CFO and I saw their lifestyle or their lack [00:04:00] thereof.

And I said, I don’t want that for myself. Right. And for me, dude, that’s when I knew, like I don’t want to work for someone. So I finished off that two year program. I went backpacking around Europe for three and a half months, which is a completely different podcast. And, uh, ended up going to, uh, to a Dave Lindahl marketing for deals bootcamp in 2005, ripped out one of the pre-foreclosure letters made photocopies, sent out a direct mail campaign and, and long story short, I landed, my first deal made 44 grand, about two and a half million.


Mike: And then the rest is history, right? Yeah. I mean,

Alex: I, I literally, I’ve been unemployable, as I say, I haven’t had a job since end of 2005, so yeah, it’s been an incredible ride, dude.

Mike: I say that all the time, like nobody won, nobody could afford me and nobody would want me because I just have too many opinions.

So that’s exactly right. Nobody can fire me now really besides my wife, I guess. So that’s right. That’s right. Cool, man. Well, that’s great. And so over time, you know, you were. Wholesaling and flipping things for, for quite some time before you, [00:05:00] uh, that just didn’t fit your lifestyle anymore. And then you kind of moved more into self storage and lending and other things.

Right. So how long, how long was that phase of kind of wholesaling and flipping and other things? Yeah. So between

Alex: 2000 and the 2005 and all the way up to July of 2018, I was wholesaling flipping. I’ve done subject twos, create creative financing deals, but wholesaling was kind of always my bread and butter.

And it’s interesting, man. I hate to steal your thunder, but you and I, before we started recording, you were sharing with me how you and I got into this business for freedom, for time, freedom for, you know, to build wealth and to be able to do the things you want to do with the people we want to do them.

And the irony is that that’s why I got into real estate. And yet I got caught in the wholesale. You know, kind of rat race, the hamster wheel and don’t get me wrong. I’m super grateful for the, uh, the lifestyle did provide the money we’ve been able to make. Uh, and I don’t wanna speak for you, but I, I know we’re kind of in the same boat there, but one of the biggest regrets I have, and I try to live my life without regret, but one [00:06:00] of the biggest mistakes is that people ask me now is.

Acquiring and accumulating assets that provided cashflow, which is again, ironic that that’s why I got into real estate and do the pains because I looked back at wholesale emails that myself and my team sent in 2010, 11, 12, 13. And what I would do to have those assets back. Oh, But, uh, but again, at the time it provided, I was in a different place in my life.

And then quite honestly, I’m not nearly as smart as you and some of your listeners, but, uh, it wasn’t until like 2016, 17 that I started to wake up. I’m like, what am I doing? Like, I just, I have this high paying job and, and don’t get me wrong. I had built a team of eight, nine people and I wasn’t the one talking to sellers and going on appointment.

But I was still in the business. Let’s not get it twisted. Right. I was still leading and managing the operations and man, it got to a point like 2019, Mike, I would say where I just, wasn’t getting a lot of joy and fulfillment out of the business [00:07:00] anymore. Yeah. Um, and that was tough because like I shared with you, there was a little bit of an identity crisis.

You know, I have this podcast called the flip empire show and I have a voice like you and, and, uh, and I leave with my. And yet my heart wasn’t in this business, it was just really a vehicle, which is okay, but I wanted something more for my life. So I’ll kind of pause there in case you have any questions.

Mike: Yeah. The interesting thing is, is, you know, and I can sense and I understand the identity part, cause I was like, I run flipped nerd and I was flipping hundreds of houses and now I don’t flip houses that much anymore. I mean, I flipped my rentals and stuff when we rehab them and. ’cause I mostly do multi-family now, but if it ends at the end of the day, like it was that vehicle, that path for us, that allowed us to figure that out.

Right. I mean, just because you started there and I know that there has been in the past, maybe it’s died down a little bit over the past couple of years, with all the craziness in the world, to where there was this pride of like I hustle and work hard and that identifies. And I think guys like you and I were sitting there like, dude, there’s no badge of [00:08:00] honor.

And the hustle like hustle is a season and you need to get through that season. And sometimes you might have to dip your toe back in at every once in a while. But that, that shouldn’t be the goal. Right. And I think for a lot of, a lot of the young people that were coming up, that seemed to be like this badge of honor, I was like, how hard I hustle?

And it’s like, There’s nothing cool about that. You’re just young enough to where you don’t realize it yet, but

Alex: my friend preach, you hit the nail on the head and you said it best hustle, hustle. If anything should be, uh, a season that you go through, not a lifestyle. Right. And a, and, and I don’t know

Mike: about it.

We don’t work hard by the way, but that’s right. Yeah, that’s right.

Alex: You have to work hard. You have to work smart. Sometimes you got to roll up your sleeves and dive in the trenches. I remember there was times where. You know, we, we had downs in our wholesaling business. It was a roller coaster. And there’s times that I had to jump in and do things I didn’t necessarily want to do, but I didn’t, I wasn’t too prideful to, to kind of get in the trenches with my team.

But yeah, again, you summarize the best. We get into this business. Yes. To help others and to provide for others, but to provide for our families and to build a certain lifestyle. And [00:09:00] yet I see so many people. Going at it the opposite way where they’re filling their calendar with all these hours and they’re grinding and busting their butt for years and years and years to then one, they have time.

Well, we kind of take it for granted that we’re going to have that time in the future.

Mike: That’s right. That’s right. Yeah. I think, um, you know, both you and I, at some point we realized it’s very it’s by the way, for, for those of you that are wholesalers out there, there’s nothing wrong with that. Making this a season that you have to go through.

Right. It’s a good business. We made a lot of money. It was more active money than it was like time. Right. Wealth building. Right. And, and for me, you know, one thing that I did do, which I wish I had done more of is keep more rentals. So we have, um, and, and that’s all I want now. I just want assets that pay a residual every month.

Right. So I’ll tell you a little interesting story. So we, um, just, this just happened yesterday. So, um, we, we kept a, I kept about 40 or 50 rentals over the years of hundreds of deals I’ve done. I always say, I wish I kept more now because who would have known. And then even in Texas where I’m at [00:10:00] there historically really wasn’t much appreciation, but it’s been insane the last like five or six years.

And so there’s a house that a. Uh, rental we’re doing to make ready on. And so, uh, we actually, this is an unusual thing. We had a tenant there for, I think, eight years or 10 years long time. Like, you know, those are usually good because you don’t have all this turnover. Uh, but then when we got in there, we need to do a $40,000 rehab on a rental, which is painful.

Now that’s a big rehab. We only bought the house for 20,000. Now I’m starting to date myself here. We probably bought that house around 20, probably around 2012, roughly give or take a two there. So we’ve had it for a, you know, 10 years. Maybe this is the only time we’ve ever had in there, maybe two. So it was a heavy rehab and I was talking to my contractor.

I was like, man, that’s like double what I even paid for the house. And we’ve, he’s been on contract for a long time. And he’s like, you know, not that I put any faith in, in Zillow, like Zillow’s numbers, but he sent me the Zillow, the Zestimate. And it’s worth two 50, I paid 24 and he’s like, what are you crying about, dude, rehab it and make it nice.[00:11:00]

By the way we had it rented at like 1295 and Zillow says the rents. And I knew, I know my property manager did that just to keep somebody there. And the market rents now are like 20, 21 to 2200. I was like, okay, let’s, let’s do that rehab. You know, that’s the

Alex: thing, what what’s that? What’s that classic saying?

And I’d love to give credit to whoever said it. Don’t wait to buy real estate, buy real estate and wait. Exactly.

Mike: Exactly. That’s it? Yeah, but no, I think you and I both like, and for everybody listening to this, like the goal isn’t, it’s nice to make active money, but the whole idea, it’s almost like for those of you that had a job before putting money away for retirement, like you take a little bit of your paycheck and put it over there.

And for us, we can put, you know, if you’re doing well in this business, it’s easy to put a lot away, right. One way or another, that really adds up.

Alex: Yeah. And I appreciate you sharing that, Mike. Cause I hope I didn’t come across. Like I’m looking down or bashing. No, not at all. Not at all, man. It was a phenomenal business.

It got me to where I needed to get to. Uh, but it was just, I saw it as a vehicle and I’m going to say something that might be controversial and people, [00:12:00] um, it might surprise people. I’m not passionate about. I’m I’m just, I’m not, and I love, I love connecting with people that are, I interview a bunch of people on my show and I can tell the ones that are passionate about real estate and the ones that are not.

But for me, it’s, it’s a vehicle, right. It’s, it’s a means to an end and don’t get me wrong. I enjoy it. But it, is it something I would do, you know, wake up and I’m excited to do because you know, and I would do it for free. No, it’s, it’s, it’s a vehicle and that’s okay. But what I find is that, you know, My belief.

And I don’t know if you share this belief, as people say, uh, you know, find what you’re passionate about and then you’ll make money. Um, I believe that things that you’re not passionate about can be a bridge or a conduit to the things that you’re passionate about. No, I think that’s perfectly

Mike: okay. Yeah. I agree with you a hundred percent.

I’ve said that a bunch of times I’ve said. W do we’re brothers from another mother. Cause I’ve said many times and Matt, Andrew’s a good friend of mine. You know, Matt has this quote and I’ve quoted him so many times that people started saying, that’s what my camera says. I was like, no, that’s what Matt Anderson.

I can’t take credit [00:13:00] for that. His quote was real estate. Isn’t the thing. It’s the thing that gets you the thing. Right. And I agree completely like it’s. It’s great. I love it as an asset class, but I don’t love it. Like, like I would love to maybe like go out and play golf or, you know, it’s not, it’s not like a hobby anymore.

It’s like, it’s a, it’s a means to an end. And it’s a powerful one for sure. And I tell people all the time, my wife, my wife has a ton of hobbies that she would not be able to probably have the time to do if it wasn’t for our real estate business. And they’re not real estate, they’re yoga. She’s got a bunch of bonds.

I tree’s like, oh, this is my wife. Oh, it has a ton of hobbies. I have, mine is like more business, you know, for the most part, but she wouldn’t be cut from the same cloth. She wouldn’t be able to do all those same things. Um, if the real estate didn’t enable that, and that’s a great thing. Yup. That’s

Alex: right.

That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. I like, so you and I have known each other for probably a decade or so, and I didn’t realize until now how similar we are, which is why we just vibe and connect. So well, man, sorry.

Mike: Um, so let’s talk about, so you, you started to realize [00:14:00] that you wanted more cashflow, you wanted more business, that you can do a deal one time and get paid on it over and over and over again.

Right. That provides a little bit more. I hate to use the word passive because none of this stuff has ever really passive, but real let’s say residual income. Right. So talk about how you kind of transitioned.

Alex: Yeah. So, you know, it’s interesting. Cause I decided to pull the plug on my wholesaling operation.

Uh, and when I say pull the plug, you know, I had a transition with my COO at the time that he was gonna take things over, uh, and that didn’t end up working out long-term but, um, shortly after COVID and some people that might not know me say, oh, you did it because of COVID. I remember being at collective genius, uh, September, 2019.

And I opened up for the first time publicly about the fact that. Hey, I’m considering do I, do I want to continue to move forward in this business and how do I reimagine things to fit the vision that I’ve created for myself? The vision I have for my life, uh, and eyes kind of wide open. Then after that presentation, I remember so many people came up to me and said, dude, I.

Thank you for, for sharing that. And, [00:15:00] uh, and then I started talking about it on my podcast and then it COVID accelerated it for sure, but I had already made the decision that just gave me a reason to do it. And, uh, you know, I remember my coach at the time told me, uh, you’re going to be anxious to jump into the next business conquer the next mountain.

He said, take some, take some time off, enjoy the fruits of your labor. Uh, we run a, uh, a mastermind called the sand and, and I, I love doing the podcast. And so I just focused on that and I felt the time was right. Storage was awesome. Was, was one of those asset classes that I researched multifamily and commercial, all the different commercial assets storage is the one that appealed to me.

Uh, and so I committed myself at that moment. You know, I think for me, that’s one of the things that has helped me get to where I am today. And I say that humbly is that when I decided I decided I burned the ships and I. Yeah, that’s great. And, uh, and then it was a journey, you know, it took, uh, four or five months to get a 340 unit facility under contract and a two and a half months later.

We finally closed on that one and I’m actively looking for the next one. [00:16:00] Yeah,

Mike: that’s awesome. Yeah, I’ve said this many times, you’ll, you’ll identify with this too, because we’re so similar. Even when you were. Peak in this business and it was going well, there are days when you wake up and you’re like, I’m on a 10 X this thing.

And then by lunchtime, you’re like, I’m shutting something down. That is so true. And this business is it’s a roller coaster emotionally, financially. And if you, if you ride it long enough, um, there’s way more ups and downs. Um, You know, emotionally and, uh, and financially I think, but you have to be willing to ride and I’ve seen, and I’m sure you’ve seen a lot of people that come and go that dip their toe in the water and they’re in and out.

And it’s just, it’s kinda wasn’t for them. Right? So it’s this, this is this real estate investing, but especially wholesaling and flipping in that is not for the faint of heart.

Alex: Right? That’s right. That’s right. No, and to piggyback on something you said that, that I just thought if I just finished reading a book called the wealthy gardener, which I highly highly recommend, um, and it, it’s kind of the equivalent of.

You know, the, in the garden, you plant a bunch of seeds and yet you don’t pour enough water on them and you just, [00:17:00] you just continue to plant seeds. You’re not going to really go very far. Those things are not going to sprout. They’re not going to grow. Um, and so you gotta focus. You gotta stay consistent.

You gotta continue to plant the seed and water. It there’s too many people out there that are being swayed by what they see on social media and seeing, oh, e-comm, I want to do that. And, and commercial, I want to do that in wholesaling and they spread themselves. So. And yet they judge themselves based on the lack of success when they compare to what they see on social.

Uh, and I think it’s a

Mike: problem. Yeah. I just, you can just maybe thought of something. I watched this, there’s some documentary on Netflix, sort of about farming. And I just watched a couple of weeks ago and it’s basically talking about how hard farming really is. Like a lot of people think there’s all, and this is like real farming.

They followed like. Four or five different families that farm. And they’re really, most of them seem to be transitioning it from the parents to the kids now that are like young adults. And they were just talking about, you know, how hard of a business it is. And, um, and there was this, there was a scene where they had put a bunch of seeds out and they waited from the [00:18:00] sprout.

And then in some areas they could see where they weren’t sprouting and they were down there digging in the dirt, like trying to find those seeds, like why didn’t they sprout and just putting all this time into it, you know? How much effort that puts from fertilizer and a water, it’s all those things. And you’re right.

Most real estate investors these days, or most entrepreneurs by most people, they want to pop a pill and lose 50 pounds. They want to change a filter on their phone and become a different person. It’s like, that’s just not the real world. And if you pick that into your business, you’re going to fail because it takes rolling up your sleeves, doing the work, digging in to find out why those seeds didn’t sprouts to be able to build any business.

Alex: Right. Uh, a hundred percent, you know, we live in a micro society, right? Like you like it what’s that saying it took me 10 years, took me 20 years, 30 years to become an overnight success. And I think if people, uh, use social media for creation versus consumption, they would do far better off because we were all human.

And sometimes you find yourself not feeling as great because you feel you should be at a certain level. And yet you’re not. [00:19:00] But we all are on our own unique journeys, you know? And it just, for some people, it takes longer than others, but as long as you remain consistent and you’re clear what you want and why you want it, um, it’s inevitable your success.

It’s just, you

Mike: got to stay at it. Yeah. Yeah. I was talking to somebody in the past few days here and they said, um, You know, be wary of being around or working with people that found success quickly. And they’ve never failed because the real lessons, the real way to move forward is having those failures, having that grit to work through stuff that just makes you stronger.

Right? So you need that time. Like if you, if you pride yourself of like, I’ve never failed, I’ve never lost money on a deal. I’ve never been sued. Like whatever, all these things are. It’s like, you know, then you haven’t lived yet. Those things are coming.

Alex: Yeah, I D I did. They’re lying or they just haven’t done enough either way.

That’s not the kind of person you want to surround yourself

Mike: with. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so Alex, uh, what are some of the lessons learned? Like you, you, you kind of realize, and I always refer to Robert Kiyosaki’s cashflow quadrant [00:20:00] that lower right. Is the eye box. We all want to be investors in our money’s working for us while we sleep.

Right. But, uh, the lower left is like self-employed and that’s probably where. You, you know, you’re probably between there and a business owner and you’re wholesaling where you’re still involved, but you’ve got employees that are doing stuff, but we all want to get to that like more passive thing where our money is working for us.

Um, and if you could do it all over again, uh, what are some lessons that you learned that maybe you could share people that are listening today, how to make that path.

Alex: Yeah, for sure. Mike, I think it’s a great question. I can go in so many different directions again, that’s probably a whole separate, dedicated podcast episode, but the first thing that comes to mind is, is what we’ve kind of already touched on is I wish I would have acquired assets earlier on in my journey versus kind of getting addicted to the income that you can make from wholesaling.

So for the wholesalers, listening to this, make sure that you have a very intentional plan about what you’re going to do with the profits. Um, it wasn’t until, you know, two, three years ago that I read profit. That’s a money management system. I wish I would’ve known about early on in my [00:21:00] career because I would have avoided a very painful, long arduous road of dealing with the IRS and owing them, you know, six figures in back taxes.

And, uh, and, and, you know, on that note, I’m reading a book, um, that I’m about to finish called the who, not how by Dan Sullivan brother, it’s had such an impact on me already, um, ask most of us. Or I should say, let me, let, let me not speak for it for people listening. But for me, most of my career, I was asking the wrong questions.

I was asking what or how and what I’ve come to realize as a recent is every time I would ask who and I would identify. The key team members, the right pieces of the puzzle. And I would work with those people. I would accelerate further with whatever goal I had, same thing applied with storage. I started asking when I got into storage, I didn’t really know anything about the asset class.

I said, who can help me advance in this new journey? And I found the right who, and that was like pouring fuel on the fire. So for those of you listening, um, stop [00:22:00] figuring, trying to figure out the exit. Believe it or not. That’s the easy part. Plug into Mike Hambright, you know, plugging into his shows, plugged into YouTube.

I mean, there’s so many resources out there. Focus your energy and your attention on finding the right people, build the right team around you. That it’s going to uplift you. Hold you accountable. Tell you what you need to hear. Not what you wanna hear. Uh, and, and I think those are, those are some valuable life lessons that I’ve learned

Mike: about.

Yep. Yeah. Shows like yours shows like FlipNerd, there’s lots of other great podcasts out there. Like they changed everything for me because prior to that time, I’m like dating myself now. And I told you when I first started, there was only a few podcasts, but there just wasn’t as social media. Wasn’t really anything, you know, eight years ago, not much not like it is now.

And so it was harder to find information back then, and now information is everywhere. It’s really an overload. So you really have to find a couple people that you admire, that you resonate with. Their story resonates with you and just learn everything you can from that person, almost whatever it costs.

So be willing to, like you said, we talked about the business. What are you gonna do with the profits? Like they really should, [00:23:00] from my perspective, you should invest it. It depends on your, everybody has different goals. Dismiss that maybe your goal isn’t to grow, but we’re going to use the assumption that people want to grow their business, expand their footprint, but you got to invest back in the business with marketing and your team.

You have to invest in yourself by surrounding yourself with the right people in different masterminds or coaching. And there’s a lot of invest in. Information access to information and other groups you can be a part of. And it’s one of the things that’s kind of interesting that I’ve started doing is, uh, I got into another group totally outside of real estate.

I wanted to get out of cars are everywhere I go. I go to a lot. I’m in a, I’m in a bunch of different masterminds. I host masterminds and it’s all the same people. Right. I went to a non real estate mastermind recently that I joined and, uh, there’s hundreds of people there. And I was like, I don’t know a single person here.

And it was just, it was, it was cool because refreshing, I didn’t have to. Pretend to be anybody or, you know, I didn’t necessarily, not that I don’t like meeting people, but it was just kind of nice. Like, I don’t have anybody to talk to you. I can just [00:24:00] like be a sponge and absorb instead of, you know, um, having some expectation of me there and there ended up being one guy he’s like, are you my camera?

Yeah. How’s it going? I was like, yeah, there’s one guy, but it was cool. It was cool. But it was just refreshing. So my point in that is that you and I both run masterminds. I mean, I think that should be a cool thing for people to listen to is two people that run amazing masterminds are on each other’s shows.

And I’m going to be on your show soon and just having this abundance mindset of, of, you know, how to surround yourself with the right people that you’re, regardless of whether they’re your competition or not. I mean, there’s plenty of opportunity in this world for all of us.

Alex: Man. I could not have said it better collaboration, not competition.

I’m looking to lift you up and help you win. And I know that you genuinely are trying to do the same for me. Um, you know, we’re going to be on each other’s shows. And so, yeah, it’s it’s you said a best it’s that abundance mentality. And again, I think that ties back to what I was saying is just surrounding yourself with the right people, people that want to lift you up, people that are not trying to drag you down.

So, um, I appreciate you sharing.

Mike: Yeah. Cool buddy. Well, if [00:25:00] folks want to connect with you, you’ve got, you’ve got your podcast and I’m sure several other ways that folks can connect with you. Where should we send them?

Alex: Yeah, no, I think again, thank you so much for the opportunity, man. This is fun. Always great connecting with you.

Um, yeah, I’ve been hosting the flip empire show for almost six years now. So flip empire.com forward slash podcast. Uh, that’ll take you right to the apple podcast and then, uh, ascend your success.com is the other place to, uh, to connect with me. Awesome, man. Well, appreciate you being here. No. Thank you so much for anything that you do for you or anybody listening.

I’m a, I’m an open

Mike: book, just like it’s funny. I, you and I haven’t talked, uh, we’ve, we’ve chatted a little bit here and there, but not like, not like this in a couple of years. And it’s kind of amazing. I just told you I was in an event with Matt Andrews and I have a lot of. Old friends, like people that I’ve, you know, we could just like grab a beer together or do a podcast together, pick it up wherever we left off.

And it’s cool to be at a point that point in my life where I’m totally like, sounded like an old guy now. Right. But I love, I love just back to the farming thing. Like we built, we started building relationships a long time ago. We’re always [00:26:00] there looking out for people trying to help in any way. We can build some level of respect with each other.

And, uh, you can really build an amazing, I think, lifestyle. So you can look back over years and know that you’ve got friends throughout the country or people that you can reach out to if you need to. And they’ll be there for you. So really, really excited to have you here. My

Alex: friend. Thank you, Mike. Thank you.

And man, I know we’re wrapping up, but just invest in relationship. I wish I would have said that earlier, when you asked me invest in relationships. Cause that’s like you said, man, we haven’t talked to him and maybe, I don’t know, six months a year, but like, it’s like, we never like, you know, we pick up right where we left off and it’s because we, we invested in each other’s relationships.


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